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Avila Cracko
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.29 21:39:00 -
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No ******* way that mineral drops is increasing even by 0.00001%
Do not screw miners even more...
Even now miners earns that its just so under the border of mans dignity...
and yours minerals are not so important you know... everything was fine before drone poop...
so... remove mineral drops from drones completely... |
Avila Cracko
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
126
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Posted - 2011.11.29 21:46:00 -
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Skizar wrote:Avila Cracko wrote:No ******* way that mineral drops is increasing even by 0.00001%
Do not screw miners even more...
Even now miners earns that its just so under the border of mans dignity...
and yours minerals are not so important you know... everything was fine before drone poop...
so... remove mineral drops from drones completely... And you will be happy until no-one buys from you cause miners can not supply the amount of minerals that are required in eve... silly slap dash answer try again.
khm... learn to read...
Quote:and yours minerals are not so important you know... everything was fine before drone poop...
you know... "your" minerals are here for a lot shorter time then mining... mining was here from beginning... and EVE had enough minerals and without drone poop... |
Avila Cracko
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
126
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Posted - 2011.11.29 21:49:00 -
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miners invested millions and millions of SP and time in mining skills... and they cant do anything else with that skills but mine...
and ppl that invested skills in shooting go shooting and leave minerals to the ppl that can do only that, mine, and that are living only from that minerals... |
Avila Cracko
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
126
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Posted - 2011.11.29 22:45:00 -
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Sezdro wrote:Everyone keeps complaining about drone alloys, and thus minerals, coming out of the drone regions. Ok, maybe it is causing lower mineral prices for you guys in high-sec, I imagine that's irritating.
BUT, when looking at all of the other 0.0 regions, you see that the drone regions have just been nerfed in terms of potential isk generation in comparison to any other 0.0 region that doesn't have drones. We don't get bounties, item drops worth anything(certainly no faction drops), exploration sites, and the salvage is crap. If you nerf hordes I think we should be compensated some other way.
ppl are not against your income...
ppl are against that you get your income by stealing income from other group of ppl that invested so much more in their profession and cant do anything else with that skill - only mine... and then CCP implement drone regions and give minerals to ppl that did not invest anything in it... and that ppl can with that same skills do many many things in game... pew pew skills are used for everything... mining only for mining... and you are stealing mining from miners too...
and what miners can do?
forget about 20-40millions SP invested in it???
well... we will not play that way...
we want that we miners and you ppl in drone regions earn isk with skills that we have...
and for that minerals must be removed from drones. |
Avila Cracko
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
130
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Posted - 2011.11.30 10:50:00 -
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Shivus Tao wrote:Tippia wrote:Skizar wrote:You wait mark my words the amount of minerals supplied will drop from and the price shall rise!!!! I think Drone regions supply about 60-70% of the minerals in empire... poor poor idea and to think you were talking about "balancing" the anomalies. So a larger portion of the minerals will be supplied by the profession that is supposed to provide minerals? Excellent. As much as I also want this to be the outcome, it unfortunately will only mean more macro mining, higher prices, or both. Legit mining has no place in eve until mining itself gets rebalanced.
Who yre you to tell me that i don't place in game where i am paying my game-time and in profession where i invested that much SP?????
And about botts... only thing what can happen is shift of botts from drone regions back to mining...
oh... yea... botters would need to buy new botts... but that's only change in botting... and in hulks you can gank them easy...
and about prices... look at prices before drone regions are introduced... and... you see... all is working and with miners "only"... |
Avila Cracko
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
130
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Posted - 2011.11.30 10:55:00 -
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Sub Prime wrote:I think the main issue here (not the side issue of minerals) is that doing drone hordes is now worse than before (when they were still worse than sanctums!). Personally, I'd prefer bounties as it's far far more convenient that the following:
Salvage/transport drone alloys
sell drone alloys = ISK, or or refine drone alloys
sell minerals = ISK or build with minerals
sell product (after transporting potentially) = ISK
Bounties are so much easier than dealing with drone alloys, so everyone that wants to complaing about the mining profession do so on another thread instead of complaining about it on a thread about the following changes to hordes:
They're harder to salvage
There is less salvage = less ISK (whatever way you want to look at it)
EDIT: UNTIL THEY REMOVE ALLOYS FROM DRONES ANYONE THAT DOES HORDES HAS A VALID POINT ABOUT THEM BEING NERFED
We have all right in the world complaining about ppl that stole miners profession, miners isk, and miners SP... ppl with other professions, completely other SP, and ppl that shoot planes to get materials to build planes.
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Avila Cracko
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
130
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Posted - 2011.11.30 13:59:00 -
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Captain Mastiff wrote:Tippia wrote:Skizar wrote:You wait mark my words the amount of minerals supplied will drop from and the price shall rise!!!! I think Drone regions supply about 60-70% of the minerals in empire... poor poor idea and to think you were talking about "balancing" the anomalies. So a larger portion of the minerals will be supplied by the profession that is supposed to provide minerals? Excellent. Who dictates that certain professions are "supposed" to provide minerals and be the only way? This is a sandbox therefore there are many things we can do and many different ways to do it. Whether than be mining minerals and collecting loot to process they are both effective forms of mineral collection. I mean run for the hills, remove Magneto sites because they provide salvage to a exploration profession... madness!
When you have over 20million SP strictly specialized, that you cant use for anything else, in mining and gathering minerals then you can to have some influence in mineral market... until then... no way...
If CCP introduce over 20mill SP skills for getting minerals out of drones... then ok... it can be like now...
oh sorry... it have to be more then 40 mill SP because drone killers are better miners then miners... |
Avila Cracko
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
133
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Posted - 2011.12.02 19:32:00 -
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Crucis Cassiopeiae wrote:ITTigerClawIK wrote:if drones were to not drop mins at all, they will need some other reason to actually do drone sites/missions at all cosue they are pretty much worthless atm to go after as is. Well... this all is about that. Remove minerals from drones and give something else to drones that will have value that will not be influenced by mineral value. That way all ppl are happy, miners and drone region guys.
I don't see why not to do so if the huge majority of players agree. |
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